Lance Cpl J HOWARD, 2/11th Regiment Afghanistan 1878-80

[ducatiman]

I'm new to this fascinating board having found it while trying to dig up information on Lance Corporal J. Howard, a distant relative who served in Afghanistan at some point during 1878 - 1880 in the 2nd Division 11th Regiment.

I found the service medal while clearing out some old family relics and thought it would be interesting to find out who he was, if possible. My middle name is Howard in recognition of that families involvement with the James family by marriage. The Howard family were originally from Devon but not sure which part.

There are also a number of "abstinence" medals in the relics box, most of those from India from the James side of the family. It is interesting to note that rewarding abstemious behaviour was considered necessary.

If anybody has information about J. Howard it would be appreciated.

Paul

[crimea1854]

Hi Paul

Having looked at the medal roll there is a J Howard, Lance Corp. serving with the 2nd Battalion The Devonshire Regiment, Regt. No. 928.

Martin

[FROGSMILE]

He was in the 2nd Battalion of the 11th (I have edited to add extra detail):

1858.01.08 2nd Battalion, 11th Regiment of Foot
re-formed at Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorks.
1858 England
1861 Cape Colony
1864 Natal
1865 China: Hong Kong
1865 Japan
1866 Cape Colony
1870 Ireland: Dublin
1871 Curragh Camp
1872 Scotland: Glasgow
1873 England: Devonport
1874 Devonport
1875 Devonport
1876 .07.03 Passage to India on HMTS Serapis (Regt's Depot Exeter)
1876 Replace 1st Battalion at Jubbulpore
1877 Jubbulpore
1878 Poona
1879 Poona
1880 Afghanistan
1881.07.01 Retitled: 2nd Battalion, The Devonshire Regiment
1881 Afghanistan and then Jullunder
1885 Jhansi
1889 Rawalpindi
1890 Burma

[Garen]

Paul - this topic may be of interest, with more info on the 11th.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1398

Best - Garen.

[heliwest]

The "abstinence" medals are also interesting and I suspect that they will be from the Soldiers Total Abstinence Association founded in 1862. This became the Army Temperence Association India in 1888 when Lord Roberts persuaded various religious and regimental bodies to combine their efforts against the demon drink. Later it became the Royal Army temperence Association and continued to operate until 1924 in India and 1939 at home. I would be interested in a description of the medals. There are collectors out there and they do have a value. King Edward VII, not known for his abstinence in various matters, granted the royal prefix in 1902.

[Maureene]

There are also a number of "abstinence" medals in the relics box, most of those from India from the James side of the family

Hi Paul
The FIBIS Fibiwiki has a page “Temperance organisations” which includes some information about temperance medals awarded in India.
http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=T ... anisations

It includes a link which gives details of the book A Guide to Military Temperance Medals of the British Army and Royal Navy by David A. Harris. The book includes chapters on the Army Temperance Association India (ATAI), the Royal Army Temperance Association: India/Home (RATA) and the Indian Army Temperance Association http://www.stewartbooks.com/Temperance_Medal.htm

Cheers
Maureen

[ducatiman]

Many thanks for all of your responses, apologies for not replying sooner to acknowledge them.

Some interesting facts there, it must have been pretty horrendous for those who went through it at the time!

Paul

[ducatiman]

Hi Paul

Having looked at the medal roll there is a J Howard, Lance Corp. serving with the 2nd Battalion The Devonshire Regiment, Regt. No. 928.

Martin

Hi Martin,

Just took another look at the medal and it does say 928 with the other info on the outer edge.

Paul