Enteric Fever

[SWB]

Hello Andre

I suspect the simple answer is that there was not enough vaccine anyway.

Also
1. Were the troops in SA before October 1899 vaccinated?
2. Were the troops coming from India vaccinated?
3. I doubt any locally raised troops were vaccinated

The Royal Commission probably has some good info. on this.

Regards
Meurig

[Andre Chissel]

Thanks Meurig, that all makes sense,

Andre

[SHROPSHIRE]

Hello mate
Just had a scan on findmypast and found this soldier of the Manchesters any connection to your Fred Bunn
Fred his Malitia papers state he was living at Manchester in 1890. it could well be the wrong chap
al the best PHIL

Last name: BUNN

Calculated year of birth: 1873

Parish of birth: Bombay

Town of birth: Bombay

County of birth: Bombay Presidency

Age at attestation: 17 years 10 months

Attestation date: 28 January 1890

Attestation corps: 4TH BATTALION MANCHESTER REGIMENT

Attestation soldier number: 3017

[Will Mathieson]

Convincing the army to use a vaccine, takes time for the armys slow revolving wheel to change. This link explains, they did see the deaths as preventable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almroth_Edward_Wright

[corona]

In addition to Fred Bunn's Militia details , provided by SHRPOSHIRE, he also enlisted into a Regular Batt.of the Manchester Regiment 4/8/1890.The QSA Medal Roll for the 1/Manchesters records the medal awarded with the single clasp NATAL.
Also listed as DIED and wife living at 48,Shipton St. Bolton.
The couple had married in 1890 and his widow and infant son James were at the Bolton address on the 1901 Census.
corona.

[corona]

The marriage date for Fred should have read 1899 not 1890!
corona.

[Nikal Seyn]

Hello mate
Just had a scan on findmypast and found this soldier of the Manchesters any connection to your Fred Bunn
Fred his Malitia papers state he was living at Manchester in 1890. it could well be the wrong chap
al the best PHIL

Last name: BUNN

Calculated year of birth: 1873

Parish of birth: Bombay

Town of birth: Bombay

County of birth: Bombay Presidency

Age at attestation: 17 years 10 months

Attestation date: 28 January 1890

Attestation corps: 4TH BATTALION MANCHESTER REGIMENT

Attestation soldier number: 3017

Hi Phil

Sorry the late reply as I've returned to this fine forum after too long an absence. You are quite right, that is Fred.

[Nikal Seyn]

In addition to Fred Bunn's Militia details , provided by SHRPOSHIRE, he also enlisted into a Regular Batt.of the Manchester Regiment 4/8/1890.The QSA Medal Roll for the 1/Manchesters records the medal awarded with the single clasp NATAL.
Also listed as DIED and wife living at 48,Shipton St. Bolton.
The couple had married in 1890 and his widow and infant son James were at the Bolton address on the 1901 Census.
corona.

James was born just a few months after the death of his father in South Africa. Fred's wife, Sarah remarried shortly after but touchingly James kept his Father's surname at his stepfathers wish. I'm lucky enough through the internet to have found and kept in touch with James' Grandaughter.

[jf42]

I was wracking my brains when this thread started, and my memory having just been jogged I can add that in America during the War of Independence, the typhoid/enteric-type fever that killed large numbers British troops in the Carolinas was known by the charming name of "putrid fever."

[Maureene]

Last name: BUNN
Calculated year of birth: 1873
Parish of birth: Bombay
Town of birth: Bombay
County of birth: Bombay Presidency

FamilySearch has the following transcribed index entry which may or may not be relevant as the year of birth differs to that previously quoted. However the place of birth is the same, so I would think there is a high probability of a connection.
name: Frederick Stanley Bunn
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Nov 1878
baptism/christening place: Byculla, Bombay, India
birth date: 17 Nov 1878
father's name: Joseph Heller Bunn
mother's name: Elizabeth Agnes
indexing project (batch) number: C00231-4
system origin: India-EASy
source film number: 523854

There are a number of other baptismal index entries (5 I could see) where the father and mother are given as Joseph Hiller Bunn, and Eliza Agnes. The baptisms are in various places, consistent with the father moving from place to place such as a soldier would.

For more information about this site, and obtaining copies of the actual record, see the FIBIS Fibiwiki pages Beginners Guide and Family Search Centres
http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=B ... s%27_Guide
http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=F ... ch_Centres

Cheers
Maureen

[Nikal Seyn]

Sorry, Maureen but I have no connection to the family you mention. Fred's father, my Great Great Grandfather, James Bunn had returned home from serving in India by then.

[ubique]

One of the biggest problems deploying troops anywhere in the world even today with modern medicine is Gastroenteritis large numbers of modern servicemen are laid low by this common condition and in the heat of Iraq and Afghanistan they require hospitalisation because of the fluid loss. So wind the clock back to 1900 no IV fluids no Dioralite and poor sanitation no wonder Diahorrea and Vomitting killed so many.