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Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby AlexReece » 22 Dec 2015 17:23

Hi Every One

A question involving the 1st Kings Dragoon Guards in South Africa 1879 and active service uniform worn, I have seen some images of the guards ( Officers mainly ) depicted in full dress tunics being worn in the field in books, modles etc ..was this really the case or is this a myth and fantasy ?

Like most I just presumed that the undress frock was worn overseas but now and then these images appear ?

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This is the type of tunic above that I would associated with being worn in the field but was some full dress tunics actually worn while on active service ?

PS I'm sure this question has been answered on here and my apologies if so.

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Alex
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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby RobD » 23 Dec 2015 01:14

Can't answer your Q but here's a post from a year ago about the 1DG
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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby AlexReece » 23 Dec 2015 16:13

RobD wrote:Can't answer your Q but here's a post from a year ago about the 1DG
Rob

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Thanks RobD

I have indeed seen that fine image of the Corporal in south Africa and seems that he wears the undress tunic.

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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby AlexReece » 23 Dec 2015 16:19

This Is a great model but here the KDG officer wears what looks like full dress tunic on campaign ?

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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby tabony » 03 Jan 2016 02:08

That was the only tunic they had. The frock was infantry undress. The undress for dragoon guards would have been the shell jacket as worn in stable dress and drill order.

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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby AlexReece » 04 Jan 2016 08:54

tabony wrote:That was the only tunic they had. The frock was infantry undress. The undress for dragoon guards would have been the shell jacket as worn in stable dress and drill order.

Martin


Hello Martin

Great image thanks for posting, forgive me but when you say ''that's the only tunic they had'' do you mean the second image that I posted as worn in SA ?

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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby tabony » 04 Jan 2016 09:46

The first tunic you posted, with the gold lace, is a junior officer's pattern. The second with the yellow worsted braid, is the other ranks version.
From our modern point of view, we look at these tunics as a parade uniform only,but back then it was their day to day wear.
There were efforts made to save damage to the expensive tunics but in the cavalry that was mostly by wearing the short shell jacket when ever possible.
So the uniform worn in South Africa in 1879 was the home service "field day" uniform with a foreign service helmet.

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Re: Kings Dragoon Guards Tunic

Postby AlexReece » 04 Jan 2016 11:26

tabony wrote:The first tunic you posted, with the gold lace, is a junior officer's pattern. The second with the yellow worsted braid, is the other ranks version.
From our modern point of view, we look at these tunics as a parade uniform only,but back then it was their day to day wear.
There were efforts made to save damage to the expensive tunics but in the cavalry that was mostly by wearing the short shell jacket when ever possible.
So the uniform worn in South Africa in 1879 was the home service "field day" uniform with a foreign service helmet.

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Cheers Martin For that, most helpful

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